Scrivener vs World Anvil

[Orpheus]

@OwenKelly

He wasn’t suggesting you should eat anything. Nor was he waving red flags.

@SirPixel

Exactly. I have no problem having a genuine conversation based on personally held perspectives in order to understand the ways and reasons why a particular person finds value in something else. And that’s because the values which we personally find in the tools that we use and enjoy are directly derived from our own intrinsic goals and dispositions. But I’m not about to entertain or respond to name-calling and derisive banter (banter which has already been lobbed my way). People are always going to find areas that they disagree on, it’s unavoidable. But that doesn’t mean discussion should devolve into ad hominem attacks or slights.

I also didn’t take him as “pimping someone else’s software”. He mentioned World Anvil, which he said he found better for his uses. I had never heard of it. I went to look at it when I had a spare ten minutes. I thought it looked extraordinarily interesting for someone else but not for me.

And not for most novelists either.

It seems to be for people who want to create massively complex worlds. They might be setting out to write a novel sequence like Dune. They might be setting out to create a long term D&D game (I knew some people who played the same D&D game every Friday for 11 years - and documented it all. This would have been perfect for them.) They might be trying to document every single aspect of the Star Trek universe in order to write fan fiction. This seems a verty niche market (but what do I know) - but for people who are, or want to be, inhabiting that niche then this seems like the perfect software.

I am glad to know about it, even though I will almost certainly have neither the need nor the inclination to use it. It is nothing like a competitor to Scrivener for 99% of Scrivener users. It is not, for example, like that online app that people mention here from time to time which might be construed as a potential competitor.

So I am not sure why anyone finds this problematic. We learned something. I like learning things. Thank you for showing it to me. I don’t think I will find it relevant.

That seems like a reasonable response to me.

If he just wanted to inform Scrivener users of an interesting application he could have just mentioned it on the Software and Development forum. “Hey, here is an interesting software that you may find useful, take a look.” Like I recently did for Milanote Milanote

Instead he was trying to push the application by telling us it was better than what we are already using and going into great detail like a … salesman.

I found his whole approach off putting. Seemed very fake and thinking we were so dumb as to believe his story that he had been lurking for years etc.

And then when I point out that World Anvil’s FAQ itself says that it is not remotely similar to Scrivener he tries to backpedal. He stepped on a landmine and tried to blame World Anvil for not knowing what they were about. It was very strange.