Version compatibility with Windows 7?

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Hi,

First post; find this forum layout (but no others on t’net) a little confusing, similar to getting my head round the software :blush:

I’m getting on fine with the trial version (3: 1.1.0) which I read somewhere would be more accessible for Windows 7

  • and so it’s proven. No probs so far.

At some point, I will upgrade my computer (cheaply to Windows 10) and download the latest version.
Then after approx 2025 will purchase new computers for whatever Windows is running on then.
But engine-wise my older computers won’t tolerate Windows 11 or what comes after. Win11,

**So my question is : **
Has anyone out there downloaded the latest Scrivener3, version 1.2 onto Windows 7 ?

I know from what I have discovered that it may function but it’s a precaution in case of potential problems. I assume if I download the latest version that it probably won’t.

But has anyone tried the latest incarnation on Windows 7?

(Bought a license with a 20% discount so as to secure a good price). I may yet stay put on the older 1.1 version as it’s not bothering me - and I’m not bothering it.
Suppose I could always re-download the old version if the latest version locks-up the software, but before introducing potential trouble I’m curious to know if someone has already tried that

  • Or does it fall to me to be the guinea pig.
    Then of course Windows 7 users everywhere will be all ears for how it did or didn’t function. :crazy_face:
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I’m on Win10, so can’t answer your specific question, but wanted to confirm your point above–if you update to 3.1.2 and find you don’t like it, sure, you can always uninstall Scrivener 3.1.2 & reinstall 3.1.1.

If this uninstall/reinstall scenario does come to pass, prior to the uninstall, be sure to save any settings you’ve customized by doing File > Options > Manage > Save Options to file. After you’ve uninstalled & reinstalled, then restore your settings by doing File > Options > Manage > Load Options from file.

Best,
Jim

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Two days ago, I installed 3.1.2.0 on my old Sony notebook. Win 7, Home Premium, Service Pack 1.
So far, no problems.
To make sure I don’t lose any settings when switching back and forth between notebook and desktop machine, I re-directed the settings folder to another folder, that is included in my backup routine and gets synced with my USB-stick.

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not exactly the answer you’re looking for, but I used 3.0.0, 3.0.1 and 3.1.1 on Windows 7 about a year, so the newest version should be good. there were problems, but it’s all typical, nothing special: relaunch at least and reinstall at most solved almost any problems.

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Could you please clarify: Which folder is the settings folder and how did you re-direct it?

Thanks,
Jim

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Thanks StefanG! :smiley: :+1:

Excellent! That’s good to hear!

Not waiting for when I upgrade the platform to Win 10.
Will have a go with 3 1.2.0

  • The very one Scrivener peeps are concerned about using with old Windows platforms!

Won’t be a problem if my set-up gets rejected, as warnings have been well-highlighted by Scrivener.

And if it functions satisfactorily, then it looks like you and I Stefan, will be running renegade. Yee-ha!

Not finished testing the trial version yet, so making my messy mistakes there, then will uninstall it completely and install the more advanced, fresh & clean 3 1.2.0 version and see how that goes on with the old Dell Workstation.

If I have no problems and you don’t either (according to Scrivener peeps, others do) then we should also enter the weekly lottery too, whilst the luck holds :rofl:

Thanks too, to other posters’ helpful experiences. I will return to this thread in the near future and relay my experience for comparison.

PS.
I ‘get away’ with running Microsoft Office 2003
AND
Office 2016 on the SAME computer - when that is expressly forbidden!

So I’m optimistic. We’ll see . . . :grinning:

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This isn’t necessary. The trial version is the full version. There is no difference. The trial version becomes paid when you enter your license key from the Help menu.

You can download 3.1.2 from here and install on top of 3.1.1.

Best,
Jim

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Thanks Jim,

Yes I know. It’s just an additional precaution.

Long story short:
I cut some essential links from the back up files whilst experimenting with alternative storage areas, and upon reopening the program it displayed a message stating unable to proceed.

So went back to the desktop trash can and retrieved one of the back up files and ‘sort of’ got it going again, but with additional clicks needed.

Eventually it self-repaired the broken link/s and began functioning normally.

So wanted to remove any chance of dormant, dodgy broken links, that might resurface and cause problems for any new versions, that’s all.

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You’re not providing specific enough info here for me (or anyone) to understand exactly what happened. Next time, take a screen shot of the error message. :innocent: If you broke something project-specific, then uninstalling/reinstalling the software will make no difference–the project will still be broken.

But–

It really doesn’t matter. Uninstalling/reinstalling will work fine. Proceed in whatever way makes you most comfortable, and if you have any issues, come back here with specifics and we’ll try to help you fix them. :nerd_face:

The one thing I strongly recommend is that you go through the tutorial at least one time. (Help > Interactive Tutorial) You’ll learn the names of things in Scrivener, get an idea of the feature set, and undoubtedly save you some frustration with project navigation. My other recommendation is that you read the BACKUPS section of this post I wrote a while back for another user. It’s for v1 Scrivener, so some menu options may have changed, but the principles remain the same.

Best,
Jim

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You are welcome. :+1:

File > Show Application Support Folder
In my case it points to C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Local\LiteratureAndLatte\Scrivener

To redirect this path to another physical location, I use a Symlink, aka Symbolic Link.

You’ll find tons of guides on the web, here’s an intro:

It works for every Windows version, symlinks have been around forever, for as long as I can think back. The procedures have not changed over the decades.

Various tools out there to create a symlink easily, without the need to understand what’s going on under the hood. My file manager (XYExplorer) has a built-in feature to create symlinks, simply by drag and drop, and that’s how I do it.

Result: Even though I work from different machines, all my Scrivener installations use/rely on the same settings folder. Same applies to my data/project files, ofc.

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Thanks so much for the info & explanation!

Jim

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Thanks for the specific Backup post you recommended Jim. Appreciated :+1:

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Hi Velo,

Scrivener’s native functionality is fine with Windows 7. The problem is that the framework for Paddle, our current licensing vendor, requires Windows 8 or above. Given that Windows itself is no longer servicing Windows 7, you can’t really blame them.

Anyway, this means that you may not be able to register the program when your free trial is up. Sometimes this looks like a complete inability to register (inability to connect to licensing servers or erroring out every attempt) and sometimes this looks like the registration getting “lost” and having to re-register every time you launch the program. Some people don’t have any problems at all.

So, you won’t really know until you register with your license and see if you’re lucky or not. The Paddle framework in the same on both of the versions you mentioned, so it won’t matter if you’re using an older or newer version, so you might as well use the newer version which has bug fixes.

One thing for all Windows 7 users to keep in mind is that Scrivener does connect to the internet in order to verify registration and Windows 7 is not receiving security patches anymore, so any internet browsing is more vulnerable on Windows 7 computers.

Best,
Jen

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  • "One thing for all Windows 7 users to keep in mind is that Scrivener does connect to the internet in order to verify registration and Windows 7 is not receiving security patches anymore, so any internet browsing is more vulnerable on Windows 7 computers. "
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Thanks for the comprehensive clarification Jen.
I will be upgrading to Win10 at some point in the new year, so that should ensure all demands are met and would cover me for the next 2 years,

Windows 7 - I do periodically still receive Msft updates. Not sure why they keep doing that after publicising to all: ‘That’s your lot. No more security patches’.

Everything still runs fine. I do see the Avast antivirus kicking in more these days though, shutting down invasive and spurious links.

However, I do accept I must at some point return to Big Brother, comply, and stand in line shuffling forward with everyone else if I want to keep playing their game by buying suitable new computers all over again - when they command so.

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Those updates you see could be for MS Office if you have that installed since that is still supported on Windows 7 (Win7 and Office).

I understand the hesitancy to keep updating Windows, but since Windows 10 support ends on 14 Oct 2025, wouldn’t you be better off migrating to Windows 11 in 2023?

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Hi BClarke,

Win11?

  • I was advised Win10 would be the best option for my aging desktop & laptop hardware as WIN11 demands significant hardware upgrades to those of yesteryear.

Hoping to spin it all out until they’re talking of Win12 :blush: as at some point it’s going to have to be new hardware to accommodate the evolving platform upgrades.

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Paddle again? I better not get into a rant of the problems they caused me. And it had nothing to do with Win7, not even with Scrivener, so it doesn’t really belong here.

Anyway, thanks a ton @JenT , for pointing this out. I really appreciate it.

Does this mean the connection to Paddle might be unsafe or open backdoors for intruders?
I am asking because I have no protection installed on my writing computer. Not even a browser, I don’t use it for anything else but writing, to rule out distractions. The only times it goes online, is to re-activate via Paddle. I hope this does not put me at risk?

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The connection to Paddle isn’t particularly unsafe, but any time your computer connects to the internet in any way, there is some vulnerability. Open ports can be targeted, but, of course, if your writing computer doesn’t have any information on it that would harm you if compromised (bank data or your social security number, for example), then it’s not something to be overly concerned about. On a standard primary computer, the average person has a lot of personal data they don’t want being compromised (passwords, payment info, personal records, etc.).

Windows computers ship with firewall enabled, so unless you’ve turned that off, your computer does have some protection. Windows Defender also runs by default on Windows 10 and 11.

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Thank you. :+1: I really appreciate it.
Will try to keep an eye on open ports. I think I might even have a monitoring tool somewhere.

Wish there was a way to indirectly activate via another machine, by means of transferring a file back and forth that is uniquely generated on the hardware where Scrivener is installed. But alas, Paddle does not offer this option.

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Old topic, I know, but I thought if I asked my question here instead of starting a new thread at least people who have experience with this issue would be alerted.

I am currently using a Scrivener free trial on my husband’s Win 11 laptop. I am using version 3.1.4 64-bit. I have gotten a lot of work done during the trial and want to migrate everything back to my own laptop and purchase the license.

My own laptop is an x200 ThinkPad bought new in 2008. It has been upgraded with a 3T SSD, 8 mb RAM, and now runs on Win7, which is the optimal OS for this machine, as it has a dual core processor, which cannot be upgraded.

Because of the dual core processor, upgrading to Win10 isn’t optimal, and upgrading to Win11 is probably impossible.

I use this machine just for writing. I have tried buying newer laptops so that I can stay current with the OS, however I am in a small subset of the population that finds the newer graphics cards hurt my eyes and give me such a bad headache, it is impossible to look at the screen for long (Intel has been notified by numerous people but refuses to acknowledge there is a problem). I do all my internet research and web browsing on a tablet using Android. This setup has worked great for me and I really would prefer to not change it. (Also, as fellow writers, you no doubt understand the attachment to particular tools.) So I have had to return those new laptops–I think I tried about four different kinds of graphics cards, all with the same result.

I am doing the trial period of Scrivener on the older Win 11 machine because I was told Scrivener is incompatible with Win 7. But now I am seeing in this fairly contemporary thread that some people do use it with Win 7.

My plan had been to try upgrading my ThinkPad to Win10, knowing it might not work very well. However, if it is at all possible to use Scrivener with Win 7, that would vastly be my preference.

Can anyone here advise me as to how to proceed with purchasing the same version of Scrivener I am using on trial and putting it on the ThinkPad running Win 7?

My only other option if that fails is to install a dual boot of Linux Mint on the ThinkPad (also an optimal OS for that machine). I am running Office 2016 in Win 7, however, and Word 2016 is my preferred non-Scrivener word processor, and I dislike the Linux word processor, so if Scrivener can run flawlessly with Linux Mint that would be the only reason I would install it.

Sorry for being so long-winded but thought I’d head off any dead-end suggestions.

To summarize:
First preference: run Scrivener on Win7-- what are the steps?
Second preference: run Scrivener on Win10 (assuming it will run on my machine without causing problems like slowness or overheating)
Third preference: run Scrivener on Linux Mint (assuming they will run together without issues)

Thank you!!