WIndows 3 Release: My Thoughts

Make up your mind. You are making two self contradictory claims here.

I don’t care that you don’t understand you do. That’s not my problem. But you do.

I don’t speak any German, but can anybody confirm that Patchwork costs 130+euros?

That’s a lot of bones. On the hand they have already released their V3 for both MAC and WINDOWS…

Ja, ich denke das ist richtig. (courtesy google translate) :mrgreen:

Price drops to 99 euros if you don’t want the grammar/spell checking add-on called Duden. Or you can get a Duden-less 26/mo subscription.

Best,
Jim

One alternative would be to use the Export → Files function to export the entire Binder from Scrivener 3, and then import the resulting files and folders into Scrivener 1.9. That would preserve the Binder hierarchy, but lose associated metadata.

Another alternative would be to ask a friendly Mac Scrivener user (or our support team) to export from Mac Scrivener 3 to a (Mac) Scrivener 2 format project.

Katherine

Ha, that’s great! I didn’t even think about the export function and settled on writing long postings here instead :unamused: sorry.
Thank you!!! :smiley:

If you don’t write in German, paying for the “Duden” wouldn’t make any sense. (Actually, the “Duden” is the best known German dictionary, kind of the equivalent to the Oxford English Dictionary. Kind of, until the spelling reform of 1996 it was even normative, not only descriptive. But I guess nobody wants to know that …)

One little correction, the price of € 26,- is not a subscription model, it’s actually payment by installment. Four times € 26,-.

Ah, that all makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! I learned something today. :slight_smile:

I’d be okay with a different but just as cool version that does what I need in Windows in perhaps slightly different ways. And to say it needs to be on par with Word… Well IMO Scriv for Mac is better than Word, but then again you have to pay a lot more for Office. If you are paying $45 stop complaining overmuch. Fair enough to ask for features. IMO.

I completely agree.
The Windows 3 Beta has been in development for how many years??? On top of that, exactly as you said, you can’t open older versions in Windows.

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Without a doubt the most well-thought, respectful thing I’ve read in these forums.

A very thoughtful post. And really, very much appreciated. I thought I was alone in my frustration. Now I see its not the case.

I’ve only posted a few times but the divided camp you describe seems pretty accurate.There is another way to consider the divide. Those who are indifferent to the notion of their key software being shut down mid project because the company making it can’t or won’t be honest with the customer base, or those who need to know that software they are depending on will be around and issues fixed. As far as your comment “… A little bit of considering the other person’s perspective can go a long way…” there are just people who feel entitled to do that kind of thing, here and everywhere-and they’ll never take advice.

And yes, we could all just continue to use the original Windows version. A version that is already behind several Windows updates. And if the Windows project gets abandoned we still have operating software many Windows revisions behind. Until something breaks. Usually mid project or just before a deadline as those things tend to happen. Just one windows update away. Or, perhaps like myself,consider buying a Mac just to use the better version. Which seems ridiculous.

I have also see comments about ‘flailing a dead horse’ and how those people should stop complaining because L&L is aware and the complaints aren’t going to make any difference to the project. If true,doesn’t that pretty much validate the companies indifference? And its strange if not bizarre to be treating customers that way. Which really says more than the endless multiyear missed deadlines.

Agree. Once upon a time there was a 'Golden Vaporware" award. Maybe we should nominate L&L.

  1. The promise was as close to parity as the operating system differences will allow. I don’t believe there was ever a promise for total parity. That said it’s pretty f.cking close to parity. (I’m Australian, here we’d include the u, but left it out for fear of melting snowflakes.)

  2. It exists in a solid, useable beta, therefore it is not vapourware. It’s just not ‘chargeableware’ yet.

Not sure how ‘parity’ got connected to my own comments, ‘parity’ is not an issue for me although it might be if L&L ever actually release the final product. Be that as it may-this endless golden vaporware project is beyond ridiculous.

I’ve solved my own problem by ordering a Mac, which will give me the option to buy the current generation version should I decide I just can’t live without. As someone pointed out buying ‘Adobe 1.0’ in a Adobe 10x universe is just not an option. I will say I’m having second thoughts about buying anything from any company that would so obviously care less about their future customers.

  1. Congratulations on buying a superior machine. :smiley: Much as I’m sure Apple appreciate the sale, you could have just used the Win V3 beta for free and saved the $$$…
  2. …‘obviously care less’…You’ve made a wild accusation. Care to support it with any fact? I see a company that cares very much, providing great tech support and developing the best long for writing app anywhere. PERIOD! (to quote some political hack.)

The Win beta 3 is progressing and already far superior to any other Win option out there. Could they have communicated a little better, yes, but if you bother to read Keith’s recent blog post, they’ve taken it on the chin and are using it as learning experience.

For vapourware, it sure does have an awfully material download link. I will admit it is red instead of gold, however, though I’m not sure if that is a good or bad thing, from how you phrased it.