Writing apps for fiction authors comparison

@Pixero

Appreciate your work in this research and comparson.

Am also a huge fan of your Obsidian StoryLine plugin!

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Wouahhou !! :open_mouth: :star_struck:

Bravo pour ce travail, qui a dƻ reprƩsenter un investissement en temps vraiment important.

Merci de nous l’avoir partagĆ©.

Traduction Deepl :

Well done on this project—it must have taken a significant amount of time and effort.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Based on this analysis I tried to install StoryLine. So far I have not had much success at all, in fact I’m not sure how to use the thing.

Is anyone here using it? Is there a clean way to import a project from Scrivener (even in pieces) or will I be doomed to transliterating everything and WIKI-fying it myself in order to get any value from it?

For me, because Obsidian is my research repository, I use StoryLine as a way to outline a story. I find ideas when I’m fishing in Obsidian then I create a scene in SL and update the scene details. When I have enough of these ideas, I go back to the scenes details and add dates characters and plot info. Only keeping summary info in SL. When I’m thinking I could do something with a scene I’ll manually create a new scene in Scrivener. Have the two app windows side by side.

That said, it took me a week or so before this all gel’d … remember our first encounter with Scrivener? I love Scrivener, for now. I’ve got a lot of me invested in it.

I also am beginning to appreciate a bit of intentional friction now in my writing. For example, after I capture a fleeting idea in Obsidian and get a SL scene sorta fleshed out, I let it sit for a while before racing over to Scrivener and carrying on. In Scrivener I need to time figure out where to put the new scene, how much work I need to do to adjust other scenes because of it, etc…

I’m not ready to do the entire manuscript in SL. Maybe some day.

I gave up trying to sync (fully) between Scrivener and other tools in a two way fashion. All the apps are completely different in how they store data and it ends up being too much trouble. I just am tired of having to futz with this aspect; it cramps my writing joy.

The app writing software world (and now AI) are all new and shiny.

Best wishes hope this helps. Just give it all time to sink in.

Okay, it sounds like this is something that is very useful to someone that is at page and card zero on their project, but really harmful to productivity to someone that is well into their work with another tool and will have to review everything as it gets transcribed into the new tool with all the accompanying tags and markers to make this work.

This is why I think that that.

What got me interested in the tool was this: (circled in red)

And from everything I’ve discovered so far, there is no ā€˜magic wand’ scanning feature to enable these things to work without you tagging all of your locations, characters, and such manually everytime they are invoked, and that is no exactly an easy ask when its 100k+ of words in various stages of completion.

Oh, and @Pixero I think you have some missing or duplicated HTML tags in the Lore heading here.

Frankly, I don’t need a lot of help in ā€œnot-writingā€ in my writing time. My AD(h)D does for that quite nicely, and what it doesn’t cover there is always the siren-song of social media, email, and forums to distract me. IF I AM WRONG ABOUT THIS…. And I accept that possibility exists, please correct me, because I sometimes need the help keeping things organized after the flood of words is over…. Just not when I’m in the throws of my muse’s largess.

Totally hear you and for some of the same reasons. I have a manuscript in play as well but given the rate at which @Pixero is adding and perfecting functionality and features, I’m inclined to do the next missive in SL.

It is extraoridinary what he has pulled off in a Markdown app. Plotgrid, plotlines (subway), and recently a ā€œscriveningsā€ view of the manuscript.

In the meantime it works quite well for short stories and essays.

@Dain. Updated files so it looks ok now. Thanks!