Your avatar pic, Keith

I really like that robot pic you have Keith of that little Scrivener robot in your avatar pic. Are there any plans to commercialize it to the masses? I’d buy one. It’d be like bb-8 from star wars…only with scrivener…

I don’t think Disney would take kindly to L&L using the imagery from The Black Hole to make money… And don’t even bring up parody; the Mouse could kill seven L&Ls with a single blow*.

I imagine that individually and as a company, L&L are also especially conscientious about copyright, being dependent upon people who produce intellectual property for both fun and profit.

All that aside; have you seen that old movie? I did as a kid, and Maximillian scared the bejesus out of me. I haven’t seen it recently, for fear that my adult self will find the movie wanting.


I have not seen the movie; well, you learn something every day.

Scrivener should have its own robot. Or a mascot of some kind. And not rub off Disney. Remember the MS clip helper? Yeah, don’t groan, but it’d be neat if someone made something for scrivener. If I had any talent in the visual domain, I would set aside some time to do it. Alas, I don’t.

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel that statements of the type “Scrivener/L&L should…” really need to be made by KB and the L&L crew. Coming from users such as you and me (and yes, I have been very guilty of this in the past!), it smacks of entitlement.

Sorry, I shouldn’t have demanded like that. Still, I offer my comments as food for thought. Scrivener, as of yet, has no mascot, no robot…and it’d be neat if it did.

Does every program/application need a mascot? L&L seem to be making some unified branding changes…

Any good one should.

oi…I used that word again ‘should’ sorry…

I guess I thought of this being a fun discussion, is all. But my interest is diminishing as I write this, so I’m just going to let this one go.

In addition to whether or not those users are also customers, I think the question of entitlement depends on what follows the should – wouldn’t you agree?

For example:

“Scrivener/L&L should … have a robot.” = fun
“Scrivener/L&L should … do my taxes.” = entitlement

Before I place my pre-order, I just want to know what robot does if I put it into Scrivenings mode.

Nope, I don’t agree at all. “Should” is a loaded word that transforms the subject’s expectations into the object’s obligations. I don’t find that fun – “fun” and “joking” and “sarcastic” in a textual medium are all too often clever, and as SF novelist John Scalzi says, “The failure mode of ‘clever’ is ‘asshole.’” In spite of my own personal history of miscommunication here in the forums, I try to be clear about communications.

I find that:

“I expect that Scrivener would allow me to…”

works a lot better – it clearly identifies my expectations, which makes it easier for others to help educate me when my expectations are not in line with reality.

bro, I got it man. chill.

Hmm, a robot mascot? Here are some ideas–all definitely 100% original and my own creations.

wow, pretty good Keith. your quite the artist. Although, a few of them are from cinema. Wall-E, Dr Who, and Transformers certainly. The robot mascot has to be original, in my opinion.

I’ll post something up in a couple days.

Everyone else, feel free to share your thoughts. :slight_smile:

I quite like the Robot Maria … er, female robot you created there, Keith! :smiley:

Especially well suited, I think, for Keith’s forthcoming immersive massively multi-writer game/writeware venture, Scrivtropolis.

And there was me thinking I was a real person, with a real job in technical support and everything, and it turns out that I’m just a figment of Keith’s imagination, trapped in a beta-test fictional world. Oh, no! How am I ever to escape this spiralling quandary of existentialism? :open_mouth:

I only recently watched Fritz Lang’s Metropolis and had I not watched it I probably wouldn’t get what’s being said here.

Nevertheless, I guess the mascot doesn’t have to be a robot cause well it’s not only sci fi writers who use this app.

Hmmm… Back to the drawing board …er… I mean scapple…

We have been walking on egg shells, b/c nobody wanted to break it to you. Frankly, I’m relieved.

You know, maybe your avatar should have been a clue. I’m just saying.

If you mean the middle one on the right hand side, I agree with you, but there’s one problem I foresee: the many new users of Scrivener and Scapple who keep telling Keith that Lit&Lat will soon be in trouble if he doesn’t start making upgrades to match anything they have gleaned from other software … they will see the Scrivener logos in her eyes as dollar signs and take that as confirmation that Lit&Lat is about making as much money as possible as quickly as possible, rather than about creating the best software for its designated purpose.