Grammarly and other tools

Yes. ProWriting Aid which I’d been using for 4 years. Sorry for the confusion. My brain fart.

I’ll look again when I check another article from Scrivener, but I think you still have to use their editor to make your edits, but they immediately appear in the Libre Writer document. So I can see my images and formatting and the corrections I make in the editor appear almost immediately in the actual document. This worked really well with my 2 screens as I could put the libre office document on one screen and the editor window on the other. But I was still making changes in a text based system with formatting, so not really making the changes inside Libre Office, they just appear there. Is that what you meant, or am I missing something.

I’ll try and learn something about it today, but your picture shows two windows. One the document the other the editor. In any case, it was a superior experience to the PWA program and also seemed to provide better assistance and make fewer dumb suggestions. Most important, having Scrivener sync again brought everything, including formatting and image back into Scrivener.

What you can see in my previous screenshot is not Antidote’s editor, it is the detection report panel.
Think of it as an interactive inspector panel that adds itself up to the mother software. In this case : LO

On the other hand, this time, in this next screenshot, left side is the editor, right side is the “report panel” :


That is useful if you want to correct the content of your clipboard, for e.g.

When in LO, you don’t need to use the editor (left screenshot).
The corrector suggests correction, and if you say “yes, apply that correction”, it immediatly is corrected in LO.

This is really funny. It never even occurred to me to make the edits in LO! I’m so used to Prowriting Aid making the edits in its editor, that I made all my edits in what you call the report panel and watched them appear in LO. I’ve started to read the documentation now.

I’ve never had something that was integrated. Almost makes me want to write in Libre Office. You are right. It would be very very cool if I could have suggestions being made while I was writing.

It only works in one direction :
Whatever you do in Antidotes report panel affects the content of the mother software (LO).
But what you do in LO doesn’t show in Antidote until you hit the big green check mark icon.

Actually, it showed up for me just returning focus to Antidote, no need for a particular spot. So, worked through another article making changes in Libre Writer sometimes and also using their lists to make changes in their “report” as well. Kinda ambidextrous. I really like this program.

Must have been part of the v11 upgrade :wink:

I was finally able to get Grammarly working, but then I had to change the cursor and insertion point so that I could see the context of any changes it wanted to make. Still, it took a lot of getting used to working with it. It is quite finicky, and I would have to continuously restart it and other fussing about. Having said that it was useful and it found several mistakes. But, it was quite tiresome to use and this was only a 25-page essay. I can’t imagine what it would be like using it on a book. :unamused:

The new version does, but it definitely could use some improvements.

Does it have a trial period? I would definitely like to try it first after my less than optimal experience with Grammarly.

At the moment, I don’t think so.
But I am currently reaching out to them about it just now.

They just told me that it is something that they might eventually come up with.
They will contact me again later.

I’ve just been told by the people at Druide-Informatique that we can expect a 30 days trial version of Antidote to be available pretty soon. :slight_smile:
(As in really really soon…)

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Has anyone here used AutoCrit? It’s meant to the very good.

It’s free, but they also have paid subscriptions which unlock all of the software features and you also get access to special guest interviews and workshops, etc.

They also offer paid editing services (like Grammarly does) but also advice on pacing, pitch appraisals, etc.

On reading about Antidote here, I went ahead and purchased. I use PWA, which has been pretty handy for grammar and spelling, especially when it comes to correcting Scrivener docs. But it was expiring soon and I needed to find something.

Anyway, Antidote is the bomb. Yeah, their marketing is poor and there aren’t a whole lot of reviews for it. But, looking at the list of features, I couldn’t resist. So glad I took the leap.

It has everything you need. It’ll save me money taking grammar classes ( which I was planning to do in a month). It has answered every grammar question I’ve had, and it explains so much more along the way.

One thing PWA or Autocrit or Scrivener don’t do is highlight prepositional phrases. They can indicate telling instead of showing, and it’s a weak spot of mine. Antidote is the only software that highlights prep phrases. Hands down winner on that front alone.

Takes a bit of time to set up. So be patient while you do that. If I could make one suggestion it would be to make different language profiles in the settings. But honestly, that’s a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow stuff.

As is, my editor won’t know what to correct after I hand over my Ms for polishing.

I used to pay annually for Grammarly, but I managed to snag a Lifetime license of PWA for $96USD back in 2016, so I’ve not bothered trying anything else since then. PWA is so much better now than it was back then and the desktop app has come a long way too!
I had never heard of Antidote until it was mentioned in this thread.

I’d been using PWA for 4 years and was happy with it too. I got sticker shock when they wanted me to renew for either $349 or $399. I was irritated that they were just being so sweet and letting me know I would autorenew, without mentioning the enormous price increase.

I think Antidote is better. But personally, if I had a lifetime license for PWA, I wouldn’t pay for the Antidote license. I wouldn’t switch. PWA is good and I was happy with it.

ooh! I’ll have to check it out!

When using Grammarly in Scrivener I found that for it to work properly you should exit “wrap” and just be in Scrivening mode otherwise Grammarly is flakey.

I’m going to give it, and others a try now that I am in editing mode of my last revision.

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Here are a few more tools that I came across.

Analyze My Writing This has a useful tool that analyzes the minimum education level your reader would need to comprehend your writing. This could be useful if your target audience is a certain demographic – for example children or young adult. You would not want to write over their heads.

Perfect It includes The Chicago Manual of Style

And here is a list of 19 Grammar editors

I have only played with Analyze My Writing, not the others (yet).