Very excited to see Scrivener in the new Liquid Glass style for macOS when it releases!
Should be great!
Should be great!
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Sadly, for L&L Scrivener support, it introduces a whole new category of gee whiz, yesterday I finished my 80,000 word wonder. Today, I canât find it for the forest of trees.
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or not to see, that is the question. 
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Looking at that image, if you have less than perfect eyesight the whole thing is a disaster. Translucency works for the Apple Vision since you are superimposing a virtual reality on what you know to be the real one. On a computer screen it merely looks like bleed through from the reverse page of a book.
Complete disaster IMHO
Thatâs 100% a joke or a bug.
Maybe, but even if it is an exagerated example of the new UI my point stands. Unless translucency is much reduced - in which case whatâs the point - it looks more like bleed through from the reverse page of a book. Not good for people with less than perfect eyesight.
Okay, for the uninitiated, the posts were from me, pigfender. The odds of them being serious are not good.
macOS Tahoe wonât be available for quite some time yet.
The actual screenshots, however are much, much worse:
âA Gorgeous New Designâ, indeed. Who knew it was possible to get diabetes from using a computer.
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Thatâs an optional layout, though (âYou can personalize your Mac like never beforeâ â but you donât have to!). In fact, by default it looks pretty much like Sequoia:
Source: Apple
Some people can be so serious.
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Sorry. I didnât intend to ruin your joke, but I also donât want less tech-savvy users dread the next major update for months. Itâll be fine. Hopefully Apple gets the menu bar right by then, too, that still needs work (too transparent for some wallpapers).
You donât have to dread anything. Just donât upgrade.
Thatâs what I said about Mac OS X 10.6 âSnow Leopardâ. I hung on to the last Mac that could run that for many years, until it finally stopped booting and nobody could repair it.
Then the dread set inâŠ
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See, thatâs exactly what I mean.
This subtle bit of Apple humour while showing off a setup coloured like Aunt Pettiputâs perfectly pink petticoat was even better than the more in your face laugh at Craig Federighiâs hair when he removed his racing helmet.
Guess it was all a part of Apple Intelligence really.
In all seriousness, successfully running Scrivener under Tahoe (a virtual machine under Parallels to keep it nicely separated from my Sequoia OS). All good and have no issue with the new look.
I was even running (an app that canât be talked about) installed on Sequoia by opening the Sequoia Applications folder in the Tahoe install (using sharing), but wouldnât stick my neck out by opening any of my projects as there are a number of restrictions with iCloud when running a Mac OS on a virtual machine on an M series.
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To be serious (sorry Pigfender), if you run the current version of Scrivener on Tahoe, it will just look like it did in Sequoia. Apps only get the new look once theyâre rebuilt on Tahoe in Xcode 26. Hereâs how it looks rebuilt with no other changes:
(I personally hope they tone down the shadows around toolbar buttons. They donât look too bad here, but they are too much when directly over content.)
Weâll be making tweaks to the UI to fit better with Tahoe. From the screenshot, for instance, you can see that the formatting bar colour is off, and that header and footer bars need to be a bit bigger, with a bit more breathing room, to fit the new design. (You can also see drawing issues with the search bar in the toolbar.) Weâll be auditing every part of the UI, but Scrivenerâs UI wonât be turning too glassy - just enough to fit in.
All our app icons need recreating, though.
(This week has been spent going through all the relevant WWDC videos for developers.)
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I meant the new OS look. I didnât pick any real differences in Scrivener, putting slight differences down to my customization of Scrivener, but it was pretty much just open and have a quick play to see what the whining about the Tahoe GUI was all about. My colors look a little different to yours and didnât notice any issue with the shadows around buttons, even when hovering.
I can see some vague similarities with the dreaded Vista, but even at this early stage it looks more polished than Vista.
Damn, now I need a stiff drink with the Vista nightmares coming back. I was given the unenviable task of installing XP on all the new company machines that arrived with Vista pre-installed.
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Donât worry. Unless you go absolutely ape with personalized settings, the standard Tahoe interface is perfectly readable, even for this 4-eyed 73 and 9 month old broken down old fart.
Iâve tried a few combos without issue.