Recommend Stardock 'Groupy' for Scriveners

Hi John,

Yes, all that you’re showing would be perfect.

But…

Are you able to group Quick Ref panels when you’ve enabled the Scrivener setting Window > Float Quick Ref Panels?

That setting is what’s driving my issue.

So, as a test…

  1. Ungroup your Quick Ref panels
  2. Enable the Scrivener setting Window > Float Quick Ref Panels
  3. Group your Quick Ref panels

Thank you for trying this.

Best,
Jim

Yes, you are correct, that doesn’t work when the Window->Float setting is on.

Just for my edification, what is the difference? Why does it matter?

There’s a long-time Windows Scriv bug, from beta days, where launching Composition Mode on the main editor will arbitrarily reposition open Quick Ref windows.

My workaround for the Scriv bug has been to enable Window > Float Quick Ref Panels. For whatever reason, when this setting is enabled, Comp Mode no longer repositions the Quick Ref windows.

I have dual monitors, and a frequent setup I use is Comp Mode in the left monitor and Quick Ref panels with research and notes on the right monitor. I must keep Window > Float Quick Ref Panels enabled for this setup to work, otherwise every time I launch Comp Mode the Quick Ref panels get moved around.

It’s lame, but it is what it is. My assumption is this must be a tricky or impossible bug to fix, otherwise it would have been fixed long ago.

Now I see what you’re talking about. Yes, when I turned on Composition Mode it pulled everything out of the tabs, including Scrivener itself. According to what I read in Groupy as I was setting it up, it doesn’t work with any “titlebar” that isn’t normal/regular windows. I presume when they are in that mode, they are writing raw windows.

In my case, it doesn’t affect me since I never use Comp Mode.

John

Thanks for confirming, John.

Discussing this with you inspired me to file a bug report, in case the beta bug never made it to the current list. :sunglasses:

Best,
Jim

Cool! Thanks for the opportunity to help. Sorry it didn’t work out the way we hoped, but maybe the bug report will resolve the issue.

As nearly a month has passed, just wanted to say that Groupy has turned out to be a really useful tool . I purchased it and use it every day. Thanks again, John for the recommendation!

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for saying so!

You’re very welcome. I continue to use it every day myself. I love having the thesaurus and “scrivener-dedicated” google page grouped together. It makes it so easy to use.

As a complete aside, and having nothing to do with Scrivener, I also use StarDock’s “Fences” module on my laptop and really like the way it gets my desktop icons under control. But since that is off-topic for Scrivener, that’s all I’ll say about it here.

John