Scrivener 3 and Apple Vision Pro

From what I’m seeing in other forums, at least some Vision Pro functionality will be available via iOS unless an application explicitly opts out. Of course it remains to seen exactly what that will consist of.

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Well, I see you have a preconceived opinion, and that’s fine. I’ll take a close look at the product and as soon as it comes to Germany, maybe in a few months, I’ll go to an Apple Store and make up my own mind. Until then, I’ll wait for the reviews, which I’m sure will start on YouTube on 2 February. Let’s see what the tech-tubers have to say.

So do on-screen keyboards. They still suck. A lot.

As I mentioned. You can already do that in macOS. Give it a try. It also sucks.

There are probably ways to make it all work better in a very different way that doesn’t try to emulate existing input methods. The problem is: None of them are discovered or implemented yet.

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It’s hardly radical to suggest that wearing something heavy on your head for an extended period is undesirable. Please report back once you have a chance to experiment with it.

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I totally agree with you and I don’t intend to use the Apple Vision in public either, only in my home office and when travelling in a hotel room, but certainly not in a street café.

You focus on “things you can do with a Mac” in every answer, which I understand. But what about applications that don’t work with the Mac? Virtual monitors, for example? If you have little space, like me, you dream of a 3x4K monitor setup in overwhelming size.

I would love to as soon as I have the opportunity to try out the headset, but it will probably be quite a while before it comes to Europe.

The reason being that you can try how they work, right now, without spending any money, and see if they can replace / surpass other input methods.

Oh, I totally get the appeal. But that would be a huge workspace without a decent input method. Which is arguably the most important interface in a writer’s toolbox.

It’s probably still easier and cheaper to move to a larger apartment and get two additional displays, even in today’s market. I’m not writing that to poo on your dream, but judging from what we know so far this headset is unlikely to cut it.

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Where I can see devices like this excel – and this may sound nuts (but…) – is going beyond trying to be a bigger screen. Like: “So, this is the scene I’ve written, let’s act it out in my living room!”

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Which of course is a much harder technical problem.

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Sure. They also charge harder for it. Better be worth it to replace a proven setup.

Probably a great device for “walk thru” CAD of buildings, process industry units, etc. Better than physical models which I grew up with. I’d still use my macOS or iOS device to write the notes of the “walk thru”.

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Famous example of a cool looking (and huge) interface gone wrong:

ohboy

Even if you’re Tom Cruise, after some minutes swishing and swooshing this way through your data, your arms will demand an extra holiday. Or two.

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That’ll make a change for old Tom–getting an arm-lift.
If I think deeper about it, the Apple Vision Pro concept will open a whole new vista of opportunity for plastic surgeons, never mind chiropractors–oh and let’s not forget physical and mental health-related lawsuits.

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Apropos of this: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/technology/apple-vision-pro-augmented-reality.html?unlocked_article_code=1.RU0.HKeo.cPLZJXbtWwSe&smid=url-share
(Gift link, shouldn’t be paywalled.)

Charles Dickens did this with a large mirror.

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And he never used a computer. Not sure if that was purely by choice.

The article is certainly right. The first generation is not a mass product and is only an intermediate step in the development of a lighter and cheaper headset. No objection from my side. But in the end it will be the same as it usually is when Apple invests in a new product line: The headset will work perfectly, be slightly more expensive than the competition and sooner or later dominate the market. That may well take two or three years.

The first reviews and tests have arrived …

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As I have one I would much rather there be a version of Scrivener for the Apple Watch, which is very much a mass market product.