Scrivener 3 and Apple Vision Pro

I am not using the limmited screens of iPad or iPhone to work with Scrivener, the Apple Watch would be a no-go for me.
Meanwhile: More and more reviews arrive and I already sense the following generations of Apple Vision will change the way we work with computers. Maybe not the first generation now, but later …

I make regular use of Scrivener on my iPhone especially during my daily exercise walking through local woods and even use the Siri dictation feature to avoid the on-screen keyboard while walking also when I am away from my desk, e.g. in the kitchen and a thought strikes me for an on-going Project. (Have taken to dictating text messages on my Apple Watch because that on-screen is way too small to use and would continue that with a Scrivener on Apple Watch if it ever became a reality.) Equally use Scrivener on my iPad Air (4th gen) which has a workable screen — on which I have successfully touch-typed — when away from my study and my MacBook Pro would be too heavy to lug around. The advantage of these existing products is one is not tethered to a specific place or machine as the Apple Vision Pro seems to require and of course they allow for real world interaction at the same time.

The form factor of the Vision Pro (and all such VR headsets) would have to reduce dramatically for me to consider buying the device let alone using Scrivener on it should that become a reality in the far future and even then the only real use I make of the device would be for a fully immersive Second Life.

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That’s great and everyone develops an individual way of working. As a full-time author, the iPhone and iPad have proven to be unproductive for me. I write on the Mac, often for 8 hours or more a day, and use the iPhone at best to record voice messages for new ideas on the go.

Jumping into this thread. I’m in a similar boat to @ThomRabe. I’m a writer and tech enthusiast. I acknowledge that AVP is a 1.0 product with mixed reviews. It’s not for all, or even most people. But I think it’s part of the conversation for the future and once the form factor shrinks (sunglasses size someday?), it could be a game changer.

For now, the idea of writing on a big screen while sitting at a virtual beach is kinda cool.

That said: FYI, Thom, right now you can only have 1 virtual monitor off of your connected Mac. Multiple monitors isn’t supported yet. Boo.

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There are now quite a few reviews, many positive, but also some negative ones. The reasons why someone first buys the Apple Vision and then returns it are individual.
The YouTuber in this video should feel free to do so, if that’s what he means. He’s probably just hoping for a few more “clicks” with the title.
I’ve already written that I probably won’t buy the first generation yet, although I’ve already discovered many applications for myself in all the reviews.
No matter who you ask, objective feedback usually says that the headset has some features that are phenomenal, and also a few things that bother some users.
For example, I think it’s a shame that you can only open a single Mac window and not multiple virtual screens. On the other hand, you can arrange almost any number of native apps or iPad apps next to it.
The official delivery starts today and there will probably be a lot of reviews. I’ll continue to gather information and decide at some point whether Spacing Computing is relevant for me.

You mean people upload videos with clickbaity titles just to get some views? Nah. That’s wild. I don’t think that happens.

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Take Sam with a pinch of salt. Great comedian who missed his Blackberry.

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Oh yeah, clickbate videos exist a lot.

Vision Pro and privacy. https://wapo.st/3Oxr34N

Quote: “Most of my Vision Pro concerns are, at this point, speculative.”
So we better wait until the tech-experts have explored that in more depth. Apple is pushing user protection highly. I doubt they ignore potental risks on a new product.

Wouldn’t be the first time. Apple AirTags causing major security concerns over reports of stalking - ABC News (The article was published about two years after Apple launched the AirTags, stating basically “don’t worry, we anticipated this” – and then had to spend those two years trying to catch up with reality.)

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Okay, let’s wait and see what comes up. I’m sure if there is a valid concern, they are going to fix it.

Fun fact from my perspective: It appears to me you all want to search and find issues that lower the importance of this new technology and gadget while I look more on the bright side. :grinning:
Just FYI, I’m not working for Apple. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Well, all you had to do was reading the article.

Do I hate the iGoggles? No. In fact, as soon as Apple invents a problem for this solution, I’ll probably be very tempted and willing to wait another 30 years for them to shrink it properly. The goggles, not the problem.

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I have indeed and I have quoted the line, which was important for me, how to value it.

I’m sure if anyone can do it, then it’s Apple.

Not really we just think that there are more pressing developments than one for what is likely to be very niche and expensive product. One of those pressing developments being for all the androids to have a version of Scrivener running on an Andriod device to match the iOS/iPadOS version.

I understand and that’s all fine with me. As I wrote earlier, if the Apple Vision arrives in Europe, there will be some months passing and many reviews pop up. I won’t consider the first generation product anyway, but welcome a later version. Soon there will be one available with M3, probably a bit lighter and with more applications to be used. As I have seen, some people already did cut videos with the headset. I’m sure, Scrivener could not be used already in a mac window. So go ahead and follow the Android path, I will find usage for the headset anyway, but a little later.

Certainly L&L benefits from the widespread adoption of Apple products.

As one of my other hats, though, I’m professionally interested in privacy and security issues related to new technologies. In my opinion, most people – both creators and users of new technology – are not as alert to these concerns as they should be.

However you feel about Apple, certainly we can agree that there are plenty of bad actors in the world. Some of whom have badges and search warrants and the ability to demand any information that Apple (or anyone else) collects. And of course Apple itself is a profit-motivated entity, quite capable of making different choices in the future (or in different countries) as the environment shifts.

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