Scrivener + Zotero 7: ODT/RTF workflow not working anymore

Just a heads-up for any academic users who use Scrivener+Zotero with ODF-Scan – don’t upgrade to Zotero 7:

:red_exclamation_mark:Zotero 7 has been released but if you want to use RTF/ODF-scan plugin it is not, and will not be made, compatible with Zotero 7, stick to V6.x or switch to the Pandoc/BibTeX workflow…

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I’m sorry if this is the wrong place to put this in, but the simpler RTF Scan is still available in Zotero 7. Only the ODF Scan is unavailable.

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@eliamartin65 Hi Aurora, thanks for this good news, can you give me some more details and I can add it to the wiki page.

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You mean this; rtf_scan [Zotero Documentation] ? If so I added it to the wiki page, thanks for the heads up.

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Yes, it’s the same thing! I haven’t tested thoroughly but it appears to work fine.

Hi! I recently got Scrivener and am excited to start using it. I read several forum posts about how to use Zotero with it, and I was ready to do it but that same day I updated to Zotero 7. All the instructions I find are outdated now, and the RTF/ODF-Scan add-in does not seem to be compatible with Zotero 7. For reference, I have macOS 15.6 and Word 16.1.

Has anyone been able to use Zotero 7 and Scrivener successfully? Could you help me figure out how to do it? Specifically, I would like to be able to do two things:

  1. Convert existing Word documents that have active Zotero citations into scannable citations that I can work with in Scrivener.
  2. Go from Scrivener (with scannable citations) back to a Word document with working Zotero references.

Thank you very much in advance!

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I’ve merged your query into the main discussion for this particular matter. One of your questions should be answered by the above, but perhaps not the first.

Do note you may find guidance for conversion to “flattened” placeholders in the main citation integration wiki, though, which has a section on Zotero 6/7.

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Yes, Zotero 7 and Scrivener can work together. Please read through the wiki entry to see several possible workflows.

Unfortunately Zotero make it difficult to export documents that have active citations. The option are unlink which loses all citation information without converting to a unique ID, or “transfer” which dumps all the metadata directly as text into the docment. Neither will be viable with Scrivener. Luckily the awesome plugin BBT comes to the rescue:

You can use a special CSL style so that active citations use a scannable cite text (and if you now unlink, you have scannable cites left):

Or you can use pandoc to convert the DOCX with active citations directly into another doc format with pandoc citations.

Given the solution above, it means you probably need a Pandoc workflow to compile the final DOCX. Scrivener supports several way to do that.

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Hi! Thank you so much for your response. I read the wiki and tried the RTF Scan workflow, but was also not able to add page numbers and prefixes, which I need, and I couldn’t manage to export it to a Word file and have active citations, so it just didn’t work out. I’ll try what you said!

Can’t you do the RTF scan first, then transfer to a DOCX or ODT and finish it with the better features there?

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Technically, I guess I could, but there are two problems. One is that I’m working on a long academic book, so it would take me ages to add all the page numbers and prefixes, and I would have to find an effective way to record those details to add them later without introducing mistakes. The second problem is that, because I wasn’t able to have active citations on Word after converting the file from Scrivener, the citations are all long (in Chicago, if you cited a book and then you cite it again, subsequent citations will shorten the title).