Now that the macOS 26 gold master is out, when will the Scrivener app be updated to fix the current compile errors?
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We typically release a Scrivener update at about the same time as the Mac OS production release.
Personally, I very rarely update Mac OS before at least the x.1 release. Appleâs initial release quality has been ⊠uneven over the last few years.
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This update in particular, you might want to hold back a bit on, at least until you see a .1 or .2 release. Iâve been following the beta builds of it over the summer and it still has a lot of cold spots in the middle of the roast.
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Iâm running the RC as a VM, will hold off on the full install until the Scrivener update.
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Definitely if compiling Scrivener projects is important for you, do not upgrade to Tahoe yet as the compile dialog is not working correctly at the momentâŠ
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The official Scrivener for macOS 3.5 update, with Tahoe support, is probably going to be a couple more weeks - Apple took me a little by surprise in announcing that Tahoe was going to be released so soon. True, last yearâs update was around the same time, but for the previous few years, the macOS update had been late September or October, and with the number of bugs outstanding in Tahoe, I really thought theyâd leave it a bit longer so they could fix more of them. (Iâve filed 59 macOS/iOS 26 bug reports with Apple since June, all UI bugs of varying severity - the most Iâve ever reported for an OS update - and only one has been confirmed as fixed in the release candidate.)
However, I plan to upload an interim 3.45 build that will be made available on the forums on Monday (UK time) which fixes the issue with the blank Compile pane on Tahoe (and a number of other bugs). That way users can at least get on with their work in Scrivener on Tahoe while we finalise the release.
All the best,
Keith
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Thatâs great about the interim build, Keith. Will we need to download it from the forums or can we use the software update mechanism in the app itself to get the update?
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Youâll need to download it from the forums, as it wonât be an official build.
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Interim build now available here:
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That has fixed the compile issue, thanks.
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Arguably, they shouldâve waited, given the number of bugs Iâm fending off in Safari and generally across Tahoe/iOS this morning. This was not ready, but at least its stable.
Yeah, itâs stable, but there are a lot of UI glitches. Stuff like the divider between the main view and the inspector disappearing every time you resize the window in any app using a standard inspector (such as Preview or Xcode); glass buttons not always adapting correctly to the background colour; new UI elements introduced for developers to use with glass (like new header and footer bars) not yet being usable at all; developer tools for setting the toolbar divider style being broken; toolbar subtitles barely being visible above background content behind the glass; the standard PDF viewâs navigation features not accounting for the glass nav bar; on iOS, keyboard avoidance code being completely broken - and many more minor visual issues.
I actually like the Liquid Glass appearance, but I seem to have spent more time over the past three months reporting bugs to Apple than anything else. (Apple wonât look at a bug unless you provide a sample project demonstrating the issue, so writing a bug report and putting together a sample project for them frequently takes an hour at a time.) Itâs frustrating to then see the OS released with only one or two of my sixty bug reports receiving an answer, and to have to spend so much time trying to find workarounds.
Anyway, moan over. 
I expect these issues are worse for developers than users, and even then itâs always more complex UIs such as Scrivenerâs that tend to expose edge cases that Apple hasnât accounted for.
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Safari now miscalculates viewport height, so if you have elements 'stickied to the bottom of a web app, placement is now buggered. Networking appears to be iffy too: several of my test devices now fail to load some web content if VPN is not enabled (weirdly). And many many little UX/UI things across all the things. Web UI bugs I can fix. Safari networking issues I cannot!
Anyway⊠also moaning done.
I also rather like the Liquid Glass elements where they work!
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No surprise to see Safari even more broken than before.
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It has been a very frustrating day, and with no conceivable workaround for some of the issues we found (some that were not in the last beta!), I will have to hope Apple roll out fixes fast. Biggest irony: it impacts Appleâs own website. Sigh.
I havenât tried this in macOS 26 yet (which firmly remains a testing volume for now), but Iâve found that the old Get Info trick, where you click on the icon you want to use at the top, hit âC to copy it, and then paste it into the Get Info panel for the thing you want to use that icon for, works better than other methods these days. It used to be that swapping out the .icns file was the proper way, or at least it worked better than the Get Info trick (whether it was proper proper I donât know), but lately changing the .icns file trips the âdamagedâ flag on launch, and doesnât seem to work well anyway, once you bypass the warning.
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Hey Keith,
At least itâs not a repeat of two versions ago when we had hard crashes and you were cranking out multiple test builds a day for us to try. As much fun as that was, Iâd rather not repeat it.
I think Iâll wait for the 26.0.1 release, but if circumstances force an update, are you comfortable with Scrivener 3.45âs stability under 26.0?
Oh, and as always, thanks for being so responsive. It is MUCH appreciated.
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I havenât run into any stability issues with either the current stable version or the beta build. Mostly, as expected, it has been GUI breakdowns given the overhaul of that (and those should all be fixed at this point). That said, I wouldnât want to dissuade you from waiting for a point or two from Apple before updating. As noted above, if you use Safari to browse, it may not be the best experience right now.
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I have also not run into any issues at all with Scrivener (3.45) on Tahoe this week. Many issues elsewhere, but Scrivener has been rock solid.
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